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2Naive4MyOwnGood :

I have been reading some books pertinent to male-female relationship politics which have been really eye opening for me. So I decided to share some quotes form those books and possibly discuss the views presented in the books. Here is the first quote:

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They can seem so vulnerable, weak, needy, soft, loving, caring, nurturing, sensitive, and mostly selfless. Women are all of these things, but only under certain conditions. When the chips are down and things are not going the way women feel they should, women are the exact opposite of all of those things. To some degree, women are not some of those things at the best of times.
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[*]Andey Randead, “Prologue”, The Great Female Con.

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Ancient Sunlight :

Ah, nice idea! I have many, if not exactly from "Red Pill" books. Here's William Hazlitt in On the Pleasure of Hating, where he beautifully describes a change of mind not unlike that of taking the "Red Pill":

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As to my old opinions, I am heartily sick of them. I have reason, for they have deceived me sadly. I was taught to think, and I was willing to believe, that genius was not a bawd, that virtue was not a mask, that liberty was not a name, that love had its seat in the human heart. Now I would care little if these words were struck out of the dictionary, or if I had never heard them. They are become to my ears a mockery and a dream.

He also describes some wisdom a Frenchman offered him in his essay On the Knowledge of Character:

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I remember, several years ago, a conversation in the diligence coming from Paris, in which, on its being mentioned that a man had married his wife after thirteen years' courtship, a fellow-countryman of mine observed, that "then, at least, he would be acquainted with her character"; when a Monsieur P-----, inventor and proprietor of the Invisible Girl, made answer, "No, not at all; for that the very next day she might turn out the very reverse of the character that she had appeared in during all the preceding time. I could not help admiring the superior sagacity of the French juggler, and it struck me then that we could never be sure when we had got at the bottom of this riddle.

It seems even in the early 19th century women could drastically change after marriage. In fact, it is remarkable how little things have changed in some ways. Stevenson first described the bad effect marriage can have on men ("their soul is asleep"), and afterwards concluded: "Marriage is of so much use to a woman, opens out to her so much more of life, and puts her in the way of so much more freedom and usefulness, that, whether she marry ill or well, she can hardly miss some benefit." In the same essay -- Virginibus Puerisque --- comes the immortal declaration: "Times are changed with him who marries; there are no more by-path meadows, where you may innocently linger, but the road lies long and straight and dusty to the grave." He also concluded love is far too "violent a passion" to survive marriage:

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To deal plainly, if they only married when they fell in love, most people would die unwed; and among the others, there would be not a few tumultuous households. The Lion is the King of Beasts, but he is scarcely suitable for a domestic pet. In the same way, I suspect love is rather too violent a passion to make, in all cases, a good domestic sentiment. Like other violent excitements, it throws up not only what is best, but what is worst and smallest, in men’s characters.

Most 'happily married' couples, indeed, show not 'love' for each other, but only a "luke-warm preference"; "you have only to look these happy couples in the face, to see they have never been in love, or in hate, or in any other high passion, all their days." These are exactly my observations. Unhappilly married couples are terrible, but 'happily' married couples can be no less disgusting.

2Naive4MyOwnGood :

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Most 'happily married' couples, indeed, show not 'love' for each other, but only a "luke-warm preference"; "you have only to look these happy couples in the face, to see they have never been in love, or in hate, or in any other high passion, all their days." These are exactly my observations. Unhappilly married couples are terrible, but 'happily' married couples can be no less disgusting.

I think it is safe to say that 'unhappily married' can only be applied to husbands and 'happily married' can only be applied to wives! When a man is not happy in the marriage usually he cannot set himself free because of penalties and costs of a divorce. On the other hand an unhappy wife has all the incentives to pursue a divorce.

Hoser :

From the book "Babbit" by Sinclair Lewis.
Written in 1922, in case you think you missed out on the good old days of being a married man.

"Myra Babbitt Mrs. George F. Babbitt was definitely
mature. She had creases from the corners of her mouth to the
bottom of her chin, and her plump neck bagged. But the
thing that marked her as having passed the line was that she
no longer had reticences before her husband, and no longer
worried about not having reticences. She was in a petticoat
now, and corsets which bulged, and unaware of being seen
in bulgy corsets. She had become so dully habituated to
married life that in her full matronliness she was as sexless as
an anaemic nun. She was a good woman, a kind woman, a
diligent woman, but no one, save perhaps, Tinka, her ten-
year-old, was at all interested in her or entirely aware that
she was alive."

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but the wise, hard, corseted, old married women like Zilla are worse than any bobbed-haired girl that ever went boldly out into this-here storm of life and kept her umbrella slid up her sleeve ! But rats, you know what Zilla is. How she nags nags nags. How she wants everything I can buy her, and a lot that I can t, and how absolutely unreasonable she is, and when I get sore and try to have it out with her she plays the Perfect Lady so well that even I get fooled.

Unboxxed :

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I have been reading some books pertinent to male-female relationship politics which have been really eye opening for me. So I decided to share some quotes form those books and possibly discuss the views presented in the books. Here is the first quote:
They can seem so vulnerable, weak, needy, soft, loving, caring, nurturing, sensitive, and mostly selfless. Women are all of these things, but only under certain conditions. When the chips are down and things are not going the way women feel they should, women are the exact opposite of all of those things. To some degree, women are not some of those things at the best of times.
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[*]Andey Randead, “Prologue”, The Great Female Con.

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I was in a posting duel with some lady recently, when she complained when employers interviewing for positions do not consider women as committed employees. That employers think, if hired, women won't stay, will take excessive time off, etc. Long story short, I've seen that, in general arenas of discussion, ladies love that word "choice". They use it quite a lot, if you've ever noticed. And I believe the world by now has well-heard that, and that it has worked against women in a not-so-obvious way. I believe that when the chips are down, women "choose" to be elsewhere, to bail out, thus letting you down, and they spin their exit as a positive thing, that they "chose" another way, and they show no guilt. The word "choice" is their escape clause from being committed to something, when the chips are down. It's a cop-out. And the world sees this potential in women to do this. The world, including employers. And guys who got burned.

In fact, I've told these women to imagine walking around with their proud word CHOICE on their forehead, to get an idea of what people see in dealing with them every day. People who sell to them, date them, hire them. It's a code word for "Don't count on me".

2Naive4MyOwnGood :

I think Andey Randead refers to manginas and white knights where he talks about ball-less males:

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The modern woman has little respect for the modern male because the modern male does not demand or deserve respect. Men have become so complaisant within their relationships, because of their de-balling, that they really are insignificant. They’re just a necessary evil that the modern woman needs to satisfy her selfish desires in life. We have gotten to the point where the pendulum has swung completely in the other direction.
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[*]Andey Randead, “The De-Balling of the Modern Male”, The Great Female Con.

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Also in the same chapter of the same book:

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One of the unfortunate side effects of a ball-less male is that all his friends and family will be subjected to the wrath of the female who has taken control of him. She will not respect his kids, his parents, or his friends. The old “respect the dog for its owner” goes out the window, because there’s no respect for the owner. The wuss doesn’t demand, nor does he get, any respect, so how will anyone else close to him get any from her? The female will make the wuss choose her over everyone else in his life. The wuss will bring much suffering to the surrounding innocent bystanders as a result of his wussness. So if you have a son, brother, or father who is a wuss, look out. You will have a lot of grief dealing with his lady. She will do many things that are less than respectful to you. She will also get him to back her up, thereby putting him at odds with you as well.

It is good to be aware of the secret language developed by women:

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Here are a few examples [of a secret language developed by women], with a translation into male language!

CODED: A man must be able to protect me.
DECODED: A man must be able to spare me from all forms of discomfort. (What else could he protect her from? Robbers? An atom bomb?)

CODED: I need a man to make me feel secure.
DECODED: Above all, he must keep his money worries to himself.

CODED: I must be able to look up to a man.
DECODED: To be a possible candidate as a husband, he must be more intelligent, responsible, courageous, industrious and stronger than I am. Otherwise, what purpose would he serve?

CODED: Of course I would give up my career if my husband asked me.
DECODED: Once he is earning enough money, I am never going to work again.

CODED: The only thing I want in life is to make him happy.
DECODED: I will do everything in my power to stop him from knowing how much I exploit him.

CODED: I will never bother him with trivial problems.
DECODED: I'll do anything rather than keep him away from his work.

CODED: I am there for him alone.
DECODED: No other man has to work for me.

CODED: In future I shall devote my life to my family.
DECODED: I'm not going to lift another finger for the rest of my life. It's his turn now.

CODED: I don't believe in Women's Liberation.
DECODED: I'm not such a fool. I'd rather let a man do the work for me.

CODED: After all, we are living in an age of equality.
DECODED: If he thinks he can order me about, just because he earns money for me, he is sorely mistaken.

CODED: I'm so bad at doing things like that.
DECODED: That's a job he will have to do. What's he there for, anyway?

CODED: He knows absolutely everything.
DECODED: He even serves the function of an encyclopedia.

CODED: If a couple really love each other, there is no need to get married at once.
DECODED: He is being a bit obstinate, but I'll soon get him around in bed.

CODED: I love him.
DECODED: He is an excellent workhorse.
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[*]Esther Vilar, “A Dictionary”, The Manipulated Man.

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Even the women which are not comfortable with feminist agenda (such as pussycat movement in 70's) manipulate men in the marriage slavery:

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­One of the most fantastic flowers of this manipulation [of men] through self-abasement [by women] is the life of a well-to-do woman today, living comfortably in some pleasantly situated suburban villa. Surrounded by children, dogs, other women, by every possible kind of labor-saving device, equipped with television sets and second cars, she will tell her husband, possibly a lawyer or engineer, what a lucky man he is, what a fulfilled life he leads, while she, `as a woman,' is constrained to lead a life unworthy of a human being: she says this to the man who has paid for all that trash with his life and he believes her.
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[*]Esther Vilar, “Manipulation By Means Of Self-Abasement”, The Manipulated Man

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IMO, Chinweizu is truly a MGTOW. Here is his view about marriage:

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The sensible male (and any fair person) has to admit that the bridegroom is the one person with every reason to be unhappy at a wedding. Everyone else is usually genuinely happy, the bride, the officiating priest, the parents of the bride, the bridesmaids and other hopeful brides-to-be, the groom’s parents, and the merrily feasting guests. They have good reason too! The married women, like generals who have had their own triumphs, are glad to welcome another to their ranks. The unmarried women are having their hopes renewed, with each probably thinking: “If that silly girl can get herself a slave, so will I, sooner or later.” The married men are there to enjoy the discomfiture of yet another lad, after all misery loves company! In any case, why should they be unhappy at a feast? As for the unmarried men, the fools among them are hoping to be next in line for what they have been taught is bliss; while the worldly wise are rejoicing that it wasn’t them this time. They probably say to themselves: “Another sod bites the dust, but I’m still free!”

Chinweizu, “Wedding: The Bride’s Triumph Ceremony”, Anatomy of Female Power.

How about this? Does it not describe how a typical blue man think?

[code[ The head of the average man is packed with silly beliefs about men and women. Like fumes of booze that boost the ego, these beliefs cloud up man’s perception, and leave him swaggering and staggering through life like a hopeless drunk, to be taken advantage of by any woman who wants to.

Among the most notorious of his beliefs are that women are weak and fragile; that men are cleverer than women; that women are fickle, passive, irrational, helpless and sentimental; that men are superior to women in the natural order of the universe; that women are mysterious. These beliefs are so palpably silly that any clear-eyed and fair-minded observer can only agree with Marie Corelli who spoke of “silly souls of men” by which women entrap them.

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A married man either endures the marriage slavery or must pay a hefty price to set himself free:

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For a sane man, divorce is legal exit route from the nest slavery of marriage. In any given society, whether this exit route from marital misery is inviting or daunting depends on the obstacles and penalties with which it is surrounded.

Where there is an absolute legal or moral sanction against divorce, marriage becomes, for the husband, a form of life imprisonment, with the hard labour of carrying a talking and nagging millstone around his neck. Where divorce is allowed, but is hedged with discriminatory penalties against the husband (e.g. alimony; child custody rules that are weighted in mother’s favour; the ouster of the husband from his family house; the loss of half his estate to his wife; social censure; etc), such penalties can keep a husband trapped for life in his wife’s nest.

Once a wife is satisfied that her husband cannot divorce her, either because divorce is illegal or theologically frightening, or because it is too costly financially and psychologically, she gets her licence to be as heartless a slave-driver as she likes. She will mercilessly drive him to the brink of desertion, insanity, murder or suicide before pulling back. It is in this way that the harsh penalties surrounding divorce, penalties which make his jailbreak forbiddingly costly, are exploited to keep a husband trapped in nest slavery. The men who, as legislators, pass such divorce laws, or who, as priests, decree divorce a sin, are indeed heartless jailkeepers to all husbands within their jurisdictions.
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[*]Chinweizu, “The Penalties of Divorce”, Anatomy of Female Power.

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Ancient Sunlight :

I just read another great and widely applicable bit, from F. Scott Fitzgerald's What I Think and Feel at 25:

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Take a woman of thirty. She is considered lucky if she has allied herself to a multitude of things; her husband, her children, her home, her servant. If she has three homes, eight children, and fourteen servants, she is considered luckier still. (This, of course, does not generally apply to more husbands).

Now, when she was young she worried only about herself; but now she must be worried by any trouble occurring to any of these people or things. She is ten times as vulnerable. Moreover, she can never break one of these ties or relieve herself of one of these burdens except at the cost of great pain and sorrow to herself. They are the things that break her, and yet they are the most precious things in life.

In consequence, everything which doesn’t go to make her secure, or at least to give her a sense of security, startles and annoys her. She acquires only the useless knowledge found in cheap movies, cheap novels, and the cheap memoirs of titled foreigners.

By this time her husband also has become suspicious of anything gay or new. He seldom addresses her, except in a series of profound grunts, or to ask whether she has sent his shirts out to the laundry. At the family dinner on Sunday he occasionally gives her some fascinating statistics on party politics, some opinions from that morning’s newspaper editorial.

But after thirty, both husband and wife know in their hearts that the game is up. Without a few cocktails social intercourse becomes a torment. It is no longer spontaneous; it is a convention by which they agree to shut their eyes to the fact that the other men and women they know are tired and dull and fat, and yet must be put up with as politely as they themselves are put up with in their turn.

I have seen many happy young couples--but I have seldom seen a happy home after husband and wife are thirty.

Mr. Fitzgerald nevertheless believed in marriages, but not happily so:

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And yet I think that marriage is the most satisfactory institution we have. I’m simply stating my belief that when Life has used us for its purposes it takes away all our attractive qualities and gives us, instead, ponderous but shallow convictions of our own wisdom and “experience.”

There must be other ways out! Jack London seemed wiser in that department. His first marriage was a grotesque failure, and he knew enough bad women: --

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As a brain merchant I was a success. Society opened its portals to me. I entered right in on the parlor floor, and my disillusionment proceeded rapidly. I sat down to dinner with the masters of society, and with the wives and daughters of the masters of society. The women were gowned beautifully, I admit; but to my naive surprise I discovered that they were of the same clay as all the rest of the women I had known down below in the cellar. "The colonel's lady and Judy O'Grady were sisters under their skins"--and gowns.

It was not this, however, so much as their materialism, that shocked me. It is true, these beautifully gowned, beautiful women prattled sweet little ideals and dear little moralities; but in spite of their prattle the dominant key of the life they lived was materialistic. And they were so sentimentally selfish! They assisted in all kinds of sweet little charities, and informed one of the fact, while all the time the food they ate and the beautiful clothes they wore were bought out of dividends stained with the blood of child labor, and sweated labor, and of prostitution itself. When I mentioned such facts, expecting in my innocence that these sisters of Judy O'Grady would at once strip off their blood-dyed silks and jewels, they became excited and angry, and read me preachments about the lack of thrift, the drink, and the innate depravity that caused all the misery in society's cellar. When I mentioned that I couldn't quite see that it was the lack of thrift, the intemperance, and the depravity of a half-starved child of six that made it work twelve hours every night in a Southern cotton mill, these sisters of Judy O'Grady attacked my private life and called me an "agitator"--as though that, forsooth, settled the argument.

What Jack London comments on here is typical of women. Coleridge knew it too, as he related in his Table Talk, written down by his nephew, from which I also took my signature: --

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There is the love of the good for the good's sake, and the love of the truth for the truth's sake. I have known many, especially women, love the good for the good's sake; but very few, indeed, and scarcely one woman, love the truth for the truth's sake. Yet; without the latter, the former may become, as it has a thousand times been, the source of persecution of the truth,—the pretext and motive of inquisitorial cruelty and party zealotry. To see clearly that the love of the good and the true is ultimately identical—is given only to those who love both sincerely and without any foreign ends.

The MGTOW rebels against it all -- but he does it through himself. Thomas Carlyle was right: "To reform a world, to reform a nation, no wise man will undertake; and all but foolish men know, that the only solid, though a far slower reformation, is what each begins and perfects on himself." Amen! And every time I read a description like Fitzgerald's, I recollect with sorrow my parents' marriage, and the marriages of my friends, and can only say: 'how great is it to be free!.'

bob :

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"We need to talk" = I need to complain about you

"Have fun at the party" = do not have fun at the party

"You don’t need to buy me a present" = you need to buy me a very expensive gift

"Yes" = no

"No" = yes

"I’m very adventurous" = I’ve slept with every guy who gives me even a hint of attention

“are you hungry?” = take me to dinner

“we’re going to be late” = yes it took me five hours to get ready but it’s all your fault so drive faster who cares it’s your insurance not mine

“you seem like a player” = I find you interesting

“you’re such a jerk” = I am attracted to you

“so why did you break up with your ex girlfriend” = what’s wrong with you

“it’s getting kinda late” = I’m not going to have sex with you

“so are we together” = I want you to stop f*cking other women

“do you like me” = I like you

“we have different values” = I found somebody else to ****

“I am tired of drama and BS” = I am very attracted to a**holes

“I like your friends, but..” = I don’t like your friends

“I want a man to spoil me” = im already having sex with one guy, but now i need an AFC to spend money on me

“I’ve been really busy” = I don’t like you

“Who’s that girl you were talking to” = are you having sex with that girl

"I want to be friends first" = guys just pump and dump me so now im gonna take my insecurities out on you and make you wait

"Im not ready for a relationship right now" = im not ready for a relationship with you, ever

"I just don’t want a boyfriend right now" = I don’t want you as a boyfriend, ever

"That’s okay" = I want to think long and hard about how I’m going to make you suffer

"I’ll be ready in 5 minutes" = I’ll be ready in 2 hours

"You don’t know how to communicate" = you need to do what I tell you

"We can always still be friends" = there is no way in hell I’m going to let any part of your body ever touch any part of mine, ever again

"I like you but.." = I don’t like you

"There’s no one else I swear" = I’m banging two of your best friends

"I love sex" = I love sex with other people, but not with you

"I can’t believe I did that" = i do that all the time with other guys

"I’ve never done that before!" = I do that all the time with other guys but will only do it with you once in a while so you think you’re special

"We’re moving too fast" = I’m not ready to sleep with you again until I find out if the bad boy I got the hots for is out of prison yet

"Do I look fat" = everything is going perfect so we need to fight

"I cant believe i just sent you that picture!" = I do this all the time

"Whatever" = f*ck off

"Can you help me with <insert almost anything here>" = if I keep whining and making him think he will f*ck me the idiot will do what I say

"Where are you?" = why aren’t you here doing things for me

"I'm not sure what I want" = I don't want you

"You're such a great guy!" = You're a chump

"I have a headache" = I won't be having sex with you tonight

"I'm tired, I think I'm just going to stay in tonight" = I'm going to **** someone else tonight

"I hate my ex" = I'm still in love with my ex but he won't take me back

"I'm so happy for you!" = I am jealous and not happy for you at all

"I don't care, let's go wherever" = you better know where I want to be taken

"It's nothing" = this is a big deal

"I think I'll just stay in and take it easy" = you did something minor to make my gina dry up and I'm considering never talking to you again

"yeah, I'm all for starting out dating non-monogamously" = if I even suspect you have a lunch date with someone else you are a player and a loser

"I'm not ready to have sex yet" = You've still got 453 hoops to jump through cowboy

"I was really an idiot to marry my ex" = I blame others for my own choices in life, and I was desperate and approaching the wall, besides, all my other girlfriends were getting married and I was afraid to be the last one

"Men are all the same" = I refuse to change my ways because nothing is ever my fault

"Your friends are awesome!" = once I get you to commit I'll alienate every one of them from you and slowly isolate you and your wallet

"I like to take it slow at first" = I'm still judging you and testing you

"Let's do something next week" = unless I get a better offer

"I can't stand my ex" = I think about doing him every night

"I promise, I'm not a cat lady" = I am so totally a cat lady

"Look at that skank" = I'm jealous of all the male attention she gets

"I'm not in a position to do this properly and it wouldn't be fair for you unless i could give it a proper shot" = i don't like you anymore and i've already started looking for a new guy to f*ck

"eww, i dont even like sex, d!cks are ugly" = I'm a total slut and feel like a piece of garbage for getting f*cked by so many worthless losers over the years

"i don't suck d*ck" = i don't suck YOUR d*ck

"I just think we need some space" = Im thinking of sucking and fukking this other guy or multiple guys but im not sure yet, i will let you know at your lowest point, for now ill keep you in suspense

“call me on Thursday to confirm” = you’re my backup plan. I have almost no intention of actually going out with you

“I really like you as a friend” = I’m not going to sleep with you or date you, but you can take me out and buy me dinner if I don’t have anything better going on

“do you mind if I leave some of my things at your place” = I want other women to know you’re seeing someone

“sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner, I was so busy with work/feeling sick” = take a hint, I could not possibly care any less about you

“sorry I turned my phone off/battery died” = I was busy with some other guy

“sorry I can’t make it this Friday after all” = I found something better to do

“I don’t get along with girls because they’re jealous of me” = I don’t get along with girls because I’m a stuck up b*tch

“It’s not really going to be a couples thing, so maybe we’ll meet up after?” = I don’t want my friends to think I’m dating you seriously

“it’s just girls night out” = I’m looking for the bigger better deal (BBD)

“I don’t care about money you know I’m not like that” = yeah sure that’s why you brought it up

2Naive4MyOwnGood :

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Holy cow there's [url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161793033&p=1242486673&viewfull=1#post1242486673]this one epic post[/url] over there, here it is for our posterity. Thank you SeymourCake!


"We need to talk" = I need to complain about you

"Have fun at the party" = do not have fun at the party
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“it’s just girls night out” = I’m looking for the bigger better deal (BBD)

“I don’t care about money you know I’m not like that” = yeah sure that’s why you brought it up

Very nice indeed!

I think males need to be given this information at early years of their lives. Many men go through much pain to finally be able to decode the language used by women. Alas, young men are bombarded with so much bullshit instead of being taught the realities of life. Sometimes they find out about these realities when it is too late!

This truly sums it up:

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Once women get the freedom to make the marriage contract non-binding, then they may suppose they have the "option" of either remaining for life with one husband or of not so remaining, but since the husband has no comparable option--the woman's freedom includes the freedom to throw the man out and take his children from him (and in the American matriarchy to take part of his paycheck as well)--the man is forced to share the woman's view of the marriage as non-binding. He becomes roleless and de-motivated, likely to become a drifter or a disrupter of society, likely to be regarded by women as poor marriage material, to be pointed to by feminists as proving the anti-sociality of males and the need for more feminism.
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[*]Daniel Amneus, “The Once and Future Matriarchy: The Stone Age, the Ghetto, and the Promiscuity Principle”, Garbage Generation.

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wayn :

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 [img]https://www.goingyourownway.com/images/styles/ChitChat/misc/quote_icon.png[/img] Originally Posted by [b]bob[/b]

“are you hungry?” = take me to dinner

I used to fall for this one all the time

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