Why "masculinity crisis" is actually lack of objectives - By Latinus

Well, we can see many people talking about a "masculinity crisis", i.e., about how men today are not "masculine enough", especially in Western and some Far-Eastern countries (but even countries like Brazil are included).

So, I am starting this thread to talk about a theory based on how a "lack of (real) objectives" makes men more effeminate, and worse, more manginas, and about possible solutions.

Firstly, I want to say that I don't think that every man should be a "masculine warrior like a Spartan". This is bullshit. This is not needed nowadays. Actually I even think that this may become a problem, because possibly we will have more men killing other men for nothing.

The important point is that, in the past, men had to be masculine because they had important objectives to achieve. And if they were not "masculine enough", they would fail. And since men had important objectives to fight for, they had not much time to be manginas pussy-orbiters in the past.

And that is a reason why many men today are effeminate AND manginas: because since they don't have important objectives and hard tasks, they don't improve their masculinity (for example, why should we become stronger if today we have machines to do hard works?). And since they have nothing important to fight for, they become manginas that spend their time with futile things (i.e. women, especially).

Can you see how a lack of important objectives can become the main masculine problem? Being masculine is not exactly an objective (an "end"), but a way of life to achieve objectives (a "mean").

Lets see some clear examples:

Surviving in the nature as an objective

Obviously the first important objective for men. Men had to be masculine enough if they wanted to survive in the law of the jungle, as much as they can. Men had be strong, resistant, brave, smart, cold, organized, etc... No much time to waste worried about female bullshits. Things like saber-toothed tigers were the real problems to be worried about.

And obviously, since today we don't live in the jungle anymore, nowadays this is not a motivation for men to become more masculine, like cavemen.

Religious belief as an objective

Since human species evolved and survive in the jungle was not a problem anymore, other important objectives for men were created by religions. In the christian case, the objective was spread Christianity around the world, follow the christian way of life and wait for the time when Jesus would come back to Earth again. To achieve these objectives, religious beliefs tell us that men should be masculine, not exactly like a cavemen anymore, but in a disciplined way, following the religious rules. Many religious beliefs were also useful to spread the rotten female nature and to give advices for men about how to deal with women.

But since religions are not so influential nowadays (especially in Western and Far-eastern countries), these beliefs are not seen as real objectives and they don't motivate men to be masculine anymore.

Civilizational progress as an objective

Another reason why men in the past had to be masculine was the "civilizational progress". And despite civilizational progress be a real fact still nowadays, this is not a strong motivation for many men anymore. In the past men had to be masculine to help in the civilizational progress. Constructing new cities, conquering other countries, exploring new lands and oceans, expanding empires, improving technologies, fighting wars... These things were motivations for men, they had to be masculine to do these things better.

But nowadays we already have "progress enough", especially in Western and Far-eastern countries. And even in third-world countries there are no many new things to do, just adapt what already was done in first-world countries.

Finding objectives in a "nihilist age"

The world became boring for men. But on the other hand, women remain with no objectives and they can worry about their feminine futilities more than ever. The only "serious" objectives that women have today are things like "gender equality". Yes, this objective is an utopic bullshit, but this can show us how even "utopic bullshit objectives" can be better than "not having objectives anyway".

As I said before, in another thread, some months ago I started reading about Nihilism and some days ago I finished my reading of "Thus spoke Zarathustra" by Nietzsche. He spoke about the problems of this "Nihilist Age", since "God is dead" and how being a "Superman" could be a solution and so on. These readings cleared my mind about these masculine problems.

Today, we can see that there is no real interesting objectives to men fight for. Everything seems in vain. And if there is no war, there is no warriors. Why should men become masculine warriors if there is no war to fight? For me, even the mad terrorists of Islamic State don't deserve attention since they are distant. Playing Call of Duty is a better war to fight. (And this is why I think that many men prefer to play video games, watch animes, read mangás and watch movies nowadays. These things have more "action" and "sense" than our real modern world after all).

Unless we find sincere objectives to fight for. And this may be not exactly an easy task for many men. For those Mgtows who are searching for motivations and solutions about how to bring masculinity back, I will put some optional objectives here, listed from simplest to the more complexes:

Objectives and masculinity are not needed

Firstly, especially for "Ghost Mgtows", an option for you is that an objective is not needed. And you don't need to be a "masculine warrior like a Spartan", as I said before. Other good example are the Japanese herbivore men. They can live as effeminate anti-social men with no problem. If at least you are not a white knight mangina and if you are a free and happy men, these things may be enough for you.

Personal objectives

Obviously, other important objective for Mgtows is finding our own personal objectives. And so, we improve our "masculine virtues" to achieve these objectives. And to achieve some objectives, hard self-improvement is not even needed. For example, if your personal objective is to be a professional athlete, hard self-improvement is needed. But if your personal objective is just to live as a amateur fisherman, hard self-improvement is not so needed.

The problem here is that, for many things, having an individual objective is not enough. Some objectives can only be achieved if men gather their forces. For example, if you want to make prostitution legal in USA. A man can not change this alone. More men fighting for this common objective are needed.

Men's rights

For those (seriously) interested in Men's Rights Activism, fight for men's rights can be an obvious objective. Spreading the truth about the pro-women/anti-men laws and how to change them. These are those objectives that a man can not achieve alone, as I said before, and this is when more men fighting for common objectives are needed. And some masculine virtues may be useful to achieve these objectives.

Survivalism

Here is where the things become harder and serious. As many Mgtows can realise, a social collapse may be near. Sooner or later, we may back to the "law of the jungle", where masculinity will be needed again. Not exactly as in the Stone Age, but even so, the world may become harder.

Alerting more men about possible social collapses and how to be prepared for "when the shit hits the fan" may increase the interest of men about improving their masculinity again. The objective in this moment is just improve their "survivalist skills", but in a collapsed world the objective will be really to survive.

So, I said this months ago and now I am saying again, that some Mgtow topics should be more related to Survivalist topics, not only for those Mgtows who want to be prepared to a social collapse, but also for those Mgtows who want to have more motivations and good reasons to improve their masculinity. (And obviously, for those Mgtows who like "bushcraft" as a hobby).

Übermensch

This is obviously an option based on the Nietzschenian Superman. A man that wants to become more masculine because he likes to overcome his own limits. He fights to become a better man, just because he loves fighting for perfection and he loves the masculine virtues. He may want to be more strong, brave, handsome, happy, smart, etc. His objective is overcome his limits and fight against adversities, and this can even be definitely a proof how men can be infinitly better than women in every aspect.

New religions

But God is not dead (yet). I like to read about differents religions since many years ago. And I can see that even irreligious persons nowadays may become religious again, even in places like France and Japan. If you see many statistical researchs about religions in USA and Europe, you will realise that many "irreligious" persons are not exactly atheists, skepticals and are even "spiritualists". I can already read about "new religious movements", especially in USA and Europe.

Sooner or later, when "the shit hits the fan" and people become desperate and hopeless, other persuasive and organized religions will surge and will attract more and more followers. And with these new religious beliefs, new "divine objectives" for mankind will surge. And those who oppose them will have serious problems. Even Christianity can become strong again. (And I don't need to talk about Islam).

And the point here is, you know, when the shit hits the fan, it's masculine men that can save everybody else. Possibly new patriarchal religions focused on masculine virtues will rule again if this kind of thing happens. And possibly these new religions will be less "superstitious" and more "skeptical", this is what I can see through internet, but this is not sure. But since this is the most complex topic, I can explain this later with more details.
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Of course, there may be many other good objectives for men searching for masculinity. But I put just these in this moment, because these are the points I already read about many times.

And since my english skills are not good enough, my arguments were "shortened" and may have many grammatical errors. If you don't understand some point, don't agree with some point or want to add some point, you can post it here.