Don't Give it Away - By William Noy

This is for lurkers and forum members who still have intimate relationships with women. The official MGTOW suggestion for dealing with women's games is to simply not play. This is not that, though.

I had an epiphany the other day. Thinking about how men traditionally are valued for their utility.

Women value us for our utility (that's not the epiphany, we all know this already).

And good or bad, WE value people based on their utility. I know I take great personal pride at being competent at a lot of things, and I get a little ego bump from the gina-tingles I cause when I yank off my shirt and tie and fix a ruptured waterline to the dish washer at a dinner party. And I get a big ego bump from literally being the only person in the room who could cope with the problem without calling a professional.

But there is a downside to being valued for one's utility, as shown by Terrence Popp in his Handyman Habitat (or the Dignity Siphon) video where he details how nice guys will fix all sorts of things for a woman who isn't even sleeping with them.

I thought about guys complaining that women only call them when they need something fixed. And they never get any dating action. And it occurred to me that they remind me of women complaining that men only want them for sex.

And that's the epiphany: Women think of a man's utility like men think of a woman's sex.

Therefore, your utility (in the broad sense of the word--doing ANYTHING of benefit) is a commodity and it can be traded in a very similar way, I think, to the manner in which women trade sex.

To borrow a popular women's phrase: don't give it away. Don't fix their stuff. Don't pay their debts. Don't buy them meals. Don't do anything unless you already have gotten something of value from them. Otherwise, you will be in the position of accepting a peck on the cheek as thanks for anything you do for her (if you're lucky). If you don't give it away, I promise you will be a lot happier.

I don't get angry at women for wanting to benefit from my utility value, and I don't think women should get angry at men for wanting to have sex with them. It's just the way each of us are, and we need to recognize that in our dealings with each other instead of trying to wish it away. Honest interactions based on a recognition of what each side wants (as opposed to projecting what we think the other side should want) will yield a more harmonious outcome.