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Women's 'feelings' on Equality, 'Cheap' Men, and Dating - By Demosthenes

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1 year 11 months ago #140 by otherauthors
BeijaFlor asked me to post this over here. He did already copy it and post, but asked me to log in and post it myself. I took another look at it, made some necessary corrections for spelling, etc, and here it is. I should be more careful about my editing, but when the thoughts come, errors are secondary to allowing the thoughts to flow.

My response:

“I can pay for my own bills, but I don’t think we should be splitting the bill until we’re seriously dating,” Pace, who did pay up, told The Post.
So going Dutch is supposed to be bad, but later on OK?

Yes look around and the opposite will be criticized.
Somewhere, some of the sisterhood will be saying this:
"I don't think we should be splitting the bill if we're seriously dating. He should pay then. Maybe going dutch the first few dates, but if it's serious…"

When what they really mean is:
"I don't think I should have to pay at all. I have a vagina. He should pay for everything just because I am so special and such good company.

Dating is part of a traditional 'courting' which is part of the traditional long term mating strategy which used to lead to marriage. Women demanded equality and they have gotten it. Most men do not have the money to live even modestly and spend the money required to date you and satisfy your every selfish want and demand simply because.

Aside form extra money, the men who do date, and spend their money, can find themselves part of a woman's overall plan to simply reduce her monthly expenses. She's not really serious and wants to take it slow, but she'll definitely date you for free lunches and dinners, or so that she can be travel or just go to a movie, show, or concert.

And even if she isn't doing that, she's still 'dating' multiple people, but none of those she is dating mean anything or is really serious. 'Dating', simply is an expensive hobby and wasted on random strangers. There's just so little value in it.

Marriage: What is truly in it for men? - Crickets.
Dating: what is in it for men? - Crickets.

No. Your company is not enough. No, your conversation skills are not that impressive. No, watching you stare at your phone, or at least consistently getting interrupted isn't gonna cut it either. No, spending time with you to watch reality tv is not something guys like to do. It's something guys do so they might get to fuck you.

Still expecting guys to 'provide' and pay is gender biased bullshit girls.

But men cant just expect us to owe them anything. We don't owe men a smile, or sex, or anything. Men shouldn't just expect anything from women. And that is true. It is. Women owe men nothing.

Also true though is that men owe women nothing. Men don't owe you interest, or attention, let alone dates. Men definitely don't owe women the privilege of paying for them either - not for food, or a ticket to the show, or even a card or flowers on Valentines day, or Christmas. Most definitively, men do not owe women commitment.

Women need to step up, lean in, and get a handle on their childish expectations and selfish entitlement in thinking that a men should give them commitment. Holding men to these old expectations (old gender roles) is sexist.

What? Women thought they could alter their side of the traditional social contract and that men would simply play along and do what they always did forever? Silly Rabbit. Trix are for kids. That ship has sailed. It won't be coming back into harbor anytime soon either.

See, men did adhere to the old traditions a lot longer. They did so for so long that women failed to realize that one day, the generations of men their mothers and grandmothers had used would simply avoid those commitments women thought they were owed.

And there is a new generation of men who are finally saying. No thank you, in very large numbers. Numbers so large that women and girls today are now whining because men won't give them what their moms and grandmothers got.

Where have all the good men gone? We're living peaceful lives avoiding getting trapped into a marriage contract which, overall, totally benefits women and is biased against men. Marriage. Commitment. It's simply a bad deal. And no. Your body. Your company. And definitely not your assurances and promises that you're not like that' are not enough for any sane and rational man to risk giving you any kind of commitment.

And if a man is not going to be given the same commitment he makes to you, and knows the state is going to take your side if you make any accusation, let alone just decide to divorce him because you're bored - then why do you think any man would want to pay to take you out?

Dating is dead because the tradition surrounding long term relationships ending in marriage is also dead. So kill the expectations that men should want to take you on dates, or buy you things ,and pay your way. Men have accepted that women owe them nothing. It's time to put on your big girl panties and learn and accept that men owe you nothing either.

And don't blame men. Blame your mothers, and your grandmothers. No, not all women…yeah yeah. Heard it before. But enough women are like that.

So just stop expecting men to walk through the mine field blindly as they also search through boxes of hand grenades trying to find the one that won't explode if they pull the pin. That's what relationships are now. The state is the minefield. Women are the the grenades. And like most relationships today, grenades tend to explode.

Relationships and Grenades - A solid comparison, with inverse failure rates.

Marriage is a modern day slavery contract. Men are not lining up to become slaves like they used to. Now go cry. Take an anti depressant. Drink the boxed wine you're supposed to avoid when taking certain medications because you know best anyway. And talk to the meowing kitty about how bad life is.

BTW - the kitty isn't meowing because she actually loves you or wants your attention. She just wants you to change the fucking litter in the litter box.

Always use the word feelings instead of thoughts where women are concerned. Assuming they are using rational thought over just interpreting what they feel is naive.

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